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		<title>By: Aaron Turpen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Turpen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that he wasn&#039;t comparing like to like and I tried to point that out in my writeup.  The big difference here, I think, is cost (or market sector).  A band whose budget is lucky to cover their gas and beer to get to the gig is more likely to want to get their site up and online on the cheap, since their side job isn&#039;t likely to pay for much.  I like to think of these as &quot;Myspace Bands.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A band who&#039;s hired a touring agent and is pulling in a couple of grand a month might consider spending real money to get a decent site up and is more likely to use your service or a similar setup.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A band signed on with an indie label and selling records and making enough to pay their rent and work their music full time is definitely going to want to go to the higher-end and will likely hire a professional designer or team to put a site together for them and maintain it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are definitely different targets for this market and where Bandzoogle aims versus where Ebandlive is currently aiming are two different sectors.  I have seen plenty of &quot;cookie-cutter&quot; sites that look good enough to be easily confused with the professional one-off designs of others.  It&#039;s usually a matter of the skill of the person using the DIY in matching elements (color, flow, and photography).  Anyone can do that without needing to know HTML or the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that he wasn&#39;t comparing like to like and I tried to point that out in my writeup.  The big difference here, I think, is cost (or market sector).  A band whose budget is lucky to cover their gas and beer to get to the gig is more likely to want to get their site up and online on the cheap, since their side job isn&#39;t likely to pay for much.  I like to think of these as &#8220;Myspace Bands.&#8221;</p>
<p>A band who&#39;s hired a touring agent and is pulling in a couple of grand a month might consider spending real money to get a decent site up and is more likely to use your service or a similar setup.  </p>
<p>A band signed on with an indie label and selling records and making enough to pay their rent and work their music full time is definitely going to want to go to the higher-end and will likely hire a professional designer or team to put a site together for them and maintain it.  </p>
<p>There are definitely different targets for this market and where Bandzoogle aims versus where Ebandlive is currently aiming are two different sectors.  I have seen plenty of &#8220;cookie-cutter&#8221; sites that look good enough to be easily confused with the professional one-off designs of others.  It&#39;s usually a matter of the skill of the person using the DIY in matching elements (color, flow, and photography).  Anyone can do that without needing to know HTML or the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.scommerce.com/ebandlive-update/comment-page-1/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought I might chime in here.  I&#039;m the founder of Bandzoogle.    There are dozens of site builders out there, and many take shots at us.  I think that this one is particularly unfair.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dan really isn&#039;t comparing &quot;apples to apples&quot;.  He is comparing our DIY designs with his custom made sites.  Clearly, a DIY website can&#039;t match having a designer custom build something.  When they have a DIY system, then lets compare their sites to ours.   I suggest people check out our &quot;sample sites&quot; page to see some examples of what bands have been able to build without any input from a designer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In terms of &quot;ease of use&quot;, my Mom can build a Bandzoogle site in 10 minutes.  Customers switch from our competitors because we are easy to use.  Again, when they have their system done we should do a head to head comparison.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the next 60 days, we&#039;ll be opening up our system so that anyone can make a design (something they are charging $395 for!), but you will still have access to our built in features like our music player and MP3 download store (both of which are missing on ebandLive).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suggest bands who are interested in getting the facts try out other DIY site builders and see how they stack up themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I might chime in here.  I&#39;m the founder of Bandzoogle.    There are dozens of site builders out there, and many take shots at us.  I think that this one is particularly unfair.</p>
<p>Dan really isn&#39;t comparing &#8220;apples to apples&#8221;.  He is comparing our DIY designs with his custom made sites.  Clearly, a DIY website can&#39;t match having a designer custom build something.  When they have a DIY system, then lets compare their sites to ours.   I suggest people check out our &#8220;sample sites&#8221; page to see some examples of what bands have been able to build without any input from a designer.</p>
<p>In terms of &#8220;ease of use&#8221;, my Mom can build a Bandzoogle site in 10 minutes.  Customers switch from our competitors because we are easy to use.  Again, when they have their system done we should do a head to head comparison.</p>
<p>In the next 60 days, we&#39;ll be opening up our system so that anyone can make a design (something they are charging $395 for!), but you will still have access to our built in features like our music player and MP3 download store (both of which are missing on ebandLive).</p>
<p>I suggest bands who are interested in getting the facts try out other DIY site builders and see how they stack up themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Turpen</title>
		<link>http://www.scommerce.com/ebandlive-update/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Turpen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that he wasn&#039;t comparing like to like and I tried to point that out in my writeup.  The big difference here, I think, is cost (or market sector).  A band whose budget is lucky to cover their gas and beer to get to the gig is more likely to want to get their site up and online on the cheap, since their side job isn&#039;t likely to pay for much.  I like to think of these as &quot;Myspace Bands.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A band who&#039;s hired a touring agent and is pulling in a couple of grand a month might consider spending real money to get a decent site up and is more likely to use your service or a similar setup.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A band signed on with an indie label and selling records and making enough to pay their rent and work their music full time is definitely going to want to go to the higher-end and will likely hire a professional designer or team to put a site together for them and maintain it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are definitely different targets for this market and where Bandzoogle aims versus where Ebandlive is currently aiming are two different sectors.  I have seen plenty of &quot;cookie-cutter&quot; sites that look good enough to be easily confused with the professional one-off designs of others.  It&#039;s usually a matter of the skill of the person using the DIY in matching elements (color, flow, and photography).  Anyone can do that without needing to know HTML or the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that he wasn&#39;t comparing like to like and I tried to point that out in my writeup.  The big difference here, I think, is cost (or market sector).  A band whose budget is lucky to cover their gas and beer to get to the gig is more likely to want to get their site up and online on the cheap, since their side job isn&#39;t likely to pay for much.  I like to think of these as &#8220;Myspace Bands.&#8221;</p>
<p>A band who&#39;s hired a touring agent and is pulling in a couple of grand a month might consider spending real money to get a decent site up and is more likely to use your service or a similar setup.  </p>
<p>A band signed on with an indie label and selling records and making enough to pay their rent and work their music full time is definitely going to want to go to the higher-end and will likely hire a professional designer or team to put a site together for them and maintain it.  </p>
<p>There are definitely different targets for this market and where Bandzoogle aims versus where Ebandlive is currently aiming are two different sectors.  I have seen plenty of &#8220;cookie-cutter&#8221; sites that look good enough to be easily confused with the professional one-off designs of others.  It&#39;s usually a matter of the skill of the person using the DIY in matching elements (color, flow, and photography).  Anyone can do that without needing to know HTML or the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.scommerce.com/ebandlive-update/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought I might chime in here.  I&#039;m the founder of Bandzoogle.    There are dozens of site builders out there, and many take shots at us.  I think that this one is particularly unfair.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dan really isn&#039;t comparing &quot;apples to apples&quot;.  He is comparing our DIY designs with his custom made sites.  Clearly, a DIY website can&#039;t match having a designer custom build something.  When they have a DIY system, then lets compare their sites to ours.   I suggest people check out our &quot;sample sites&quot; page to see some examples of what bands have been able to build without any input from a designer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In terms of &quot;ease of use&quot;, my Mom can build a Bandzoogle site in 10 minutes.  Customers switch from our competitors because we are easy to use.  Again, when they have their system done we should do a head to head comparison.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the next 60 days, we&#039;ll be opening up our system so that anyone can make a design (something they are charging $395 for!), but you will still have access to our built in features like our music player and MP3 download store (both of which are missing on ebandLive).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suggest bands who are interested in getting the facts try out other DIY site builders and see how they stack up themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I might chime in here.  I&#39;m the founder of Bandzoogle.    There are dozens of site builders out there, and many take shots at us.  I think that this one is particularly unfair.</p>
<p>Dan really isn&#39;t comparing &#8220;apples to apples&#8221;.  He is comparing our DIY designs with his custom made sites.  Clearly, a DIY website can&#39;t match having a designer custom build something.  When they have a DIY system, then lets compare their sites to ours.   I suggest people check out our &#8220;sample sites&#8221; page to see some examples of what bands have been able to build without any input from a designer.</p>
<p>In terms of &#8220;ease of use&#8221;, my Mom can build a Bandzoogle site in 10 minutes.  Customers switch from our competitors because we are easy to use.  Again, when they have their system done we should do a head to head comparison.</p>
<p>In the next 60 days, we&#39;ll be opening up our system so that anyone can make a design (something they are charging $395 for!), but you will still have access to our built in features like our music player and MP3 download store (both of which are missing on ebandLive).</p>
<p>I suggest bands who are interested in getting the facts try out other DIY site builders and see how they stack up themselves.</p>
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